can't we skip the Watchtower study for once, a quick prayer okay, but, my goodness.
So true, EI, fortunately some JWs, individually, think that "their relationship to Jehovah" will be better expressed by showing mere humanity toward their neighbours
this is an email going round the jw's, contains several accounts.
here are some new reports that i received today about our brothers in haiti.
for those unfamiliar with the geography of the area, haiti shares the island with the dominican republic which is referred to as "dr" in the report.
can't we skip the Watchtower study for once, a quick prayer okay, but, my goodness.
So true, EI, fortunately some JWs, individually, think that "their relationship to Jehovah" will be better expressed by showing mere humanity toward their neighbours
as mentioned by narkissos a couple months ago, doubting bro yesterday, and no doubt others.
is this where they are headed?
i say "evidently" it is.
That's old light, Slim,
If the 7 times between the fall of Jerusalem and God appointing Jesus as king were calculated out of 365, and not 360 day years, and assuming we keep the - 607 date as the start of the period of time, we would get 7 x 365 = 2555 years, and 1914 would become 1949 (607 + 1949 - 1 = 2555) as the beginning of the last days ! and if we agree with historians who say that Jerusalem fell in - 587, the last days began in 1969.
Just add 120 years to make room for anti typical Noah's days and you expect ARMAGEDDON FOR 2089, or 2069 (about the date Issac NEWTON foresaw) if you stick to - 607.
jehovah ushers satan into his presence.. jehovah: "listen satan, the thousand year reign is just about up, and according to the bible, i've gotta let you go back to earth and tempt the people, so you'd better go down and see what's happening before you get to work.
damn.
i wished i had picked another book to endorse besides that bible.
Very good, Farkel, hope you have recovered and are now as fit physically as you keep intellectually, with your full capacity of wits. Many thanks, so, bonne année et bonne santé à toi. A small detail which could make a big difference in your vision, though, Paradise will be run, not by the WTS, which nobody wants, but by God, whom a few still stubbornly and against all odds, want to see as loving. Don't ask me about Haïti, please.
...and it's looking like they're going to need a lot of help.. .
http://blogs.state.gov/index.php/site/entry/disaster_haiti.
for those interesting in helping immediately, simply text "haiti" to "90999" and a donation of $10 will be given automatically to the red cross to help with relief efforts, charged to your cell phone bill.. .
We have 2 nice Haïtian sisters in my (wife's) congregation whom we are fairly close to, so for this time I prefer giving them hand to hand money because they have their own channels to forward this money or goods to their relatives and friends who live in Port-au-Prince and have been affected.
a few months ago there was a thread about a couple of elders at the mill hill bethel being disfellowshipped because they disagreed with some wt doctrine (i can't recall exactly what it was) and that several other betheliteswere under 'investigation'.
i haven't heard anything since, does anyone know anything more about this?.
borghater xx.
(posted previously on the wrong thread)
Welcome Paulapollos,
I read your posts and find them very interesting. As a long time bethelite, you obviously have an excellent insider knowledge of the organisation. Judging from the acute awareness you've reached about power process within this org, I suppose that you haven't gotten it overnight and it matured as you were still at Mill Hill, which must not have been an easy thing for you to live with. You must indeed have experienced a terrible inner stress due to cognitive dissonance.
As for your prediction that the GB will soon claim to be the FDS, I can tell you that I heard this assimilation from the platform at the last district assembly I attended 18 months ago in Paris, plainly laid out by a french heavy bethel member you may know, bro. COUSY. I pointed out this afterward with various JWs, nobody seemed to bother. Tells a lot about how mentally dull JWs have become, as regards their own theology.
based on their new defintion of a "generation" from the 4/15/2010 wt, that is:.
understand jesus words about this generation?.
he evidently meant that the lives of the anointed.
Welcome Paulapollos,
I read your posts and find them very interesting. As a long time bethelite, you obviously have an excellent insider knowledge of the organisation. Judging from the acute awareness you've reached about power process within this org, I suppose that you haven't gotten it overnight and it matured as you were still at Mill Hill, which must not have been an easy thing for you to live with. You must indeed have experienced a terrible inner stress due to cognitive dissonance.
As for your prediction that the GB will soon claim to be the FDS, I can tell you that I heard this assimilation from the platform at the last district assembly I attended 18 months ago in Paris, plainly laid out by a french heavy bethel member you may know, bro. COUSY. I pointed out this afterward with various JWs, nobody seemed to bother. Tells a lot about how mentally dull JWs have become, as regards their own theology.
i have been thinking a great deal about where i stand at this moment in time in terms of a belief in a creator verses a belief in an evolutionary process.
i think the best way to describe it is an exploratory path.
i look at what is around me and i acknowledge it is remarkable.
What puzzles me is : does the rejection of an abusive organisation have to entail the rejection of a creator in whom we, having been deceived by the WTS but not being totally stupid, had believed wholeheartedly ?
i wonder if everyone here who has kept up with me since i left jw's realize why i have been coming on here.
it certainly has been cool to know that some of my experiences and opinions have helped some.
i hope they know that i have been equally helped by others.. i come here primarily for me.
Many thanks, ATJ, for the most informative input you bring into this board. Thanks to your personal experience you impart a real insider knowledge to us about the functioning of this organisation. You have every right to be bitter but I appreciate your not being hateful , as far as I remember your posts, which sound plain honest.
dear all,.
i love it when your avatar is a real picture of you.
i look at it with interest and my heart warms up.
I've got this impression that there exists a typical American ex-JW man, with this specific look, or is it that many Americans look alike, like...statistics tell ?
http://www.pharmabiz.com/article/detnews.asp?articleid=53437§ionid=.
hospitals group, rectifies complex heart deformity of infant.
friday, january 08, 2010 08:00 ist .
So, Indian surgeons performed this tricky intervention, seems that Bengalore's fame as the Indian High tech capital city is not over rated. Kudos to the team, also for having respected the parents' stand, whatever we may think about the latter.